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The Holy Spirit and Grief: Collectively and Individually

"Grief" or "sorrow, misery, sadness, anguish, pain, distress" 


His fruit is immediate and lifelong. His fruit does not stop when you get born again, but His fruit also has to start there.


One thing that is interesting, while the Holy Spirit works on the individual level, He also works with the collective believers. I believe that this is because we are all connected, if one member is strong in their walk in the Spirit, it will help others not grieve the Spirit; while at the same time, if a member is grieving the Spirit, it can cause other members to stumble.


That's why we, as individuals, cannot grieve Him, because your individual grieving could cause the rest of the Body to grieve Him, too.


The Book of Hebrews reveals this in chapter 3, verse 7:


"Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

'Today if you will hear His voice, do not harden your heart as in the rebellion. On the day of trial in the wilderness, where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, and saw My works for forty years. Therefore I was angry with that generation, and said, 'They always go astray in their heart, and they have not known My ways.' So I swore in My wrath, 'They shall not enter My rest...''"

verse 16, "...For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He swear would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."


What this tells us is that the Israelites collectively grieved the Holy Spirit by their rebellion and unbelief. We see this constant theme of the Israelites following after the ways of idolatrous nations, mimicking their sins, going up all the way to when their Messiah Jesus Christ of Nazareth came to them, they rejected Him, and ordered Him to death, the ultimate form of rebellion and grieving the Spirit. Because of their collective grieving, the Israelites lost their place as God's people except for a remnant that will be saved by their faith in Jesus when He returns. 


Until then: every Jew must repent and believe and become born again like everyone else to be considered part of the elect.

In a similar manner, we see that through the church history, as explained in Church of the End-time Zombies, written by Pastor Pam, is that the Holy Spirit has been collectively grieved by professing Christians in each generation, in a similar pattern of the Israelites: unbelief and rebellion. 


It really reached its climax when a preacher, a former freemason Charles Finney, introduced a blasphemous doctrine of works: that you can say a prayer to become saved: aka. "the sinner's prayer." It took the responsibility of salvation away from the Holy Spirit, and rebelliously placed it in the hands of men. 


We also see this aspect of collectively grieving the Holy Spirit in the book when it comes to the different "church ages." The church ages come from Revelation discussing the seven churches. While the literal interpretation is about seven different churches throughout modern day Turkey in 60-90AD, we also see a deeper, more symbolic and prophetic interpretation as Pastor Pam points out:

"In the first 3 chapters of the book of Revelation, the Lord spoke to each church age. I was able to pinpoint and find in the history books of each church age: 


Ephesus was the first age of those who lived in the generation of the Lord’s crucifixion, resurrection and after the ascension. 


The persecuted church at Smyrna lined up and overlapped the first age, under cruel Roman domination, with the saints being crucified upside down, beheaded, and stoned to death.


With the rise of the Roman Emperor, Constantine, the organized church was established with the compromising church at Pergamos, which eventually became the Catholic Church. 


History revealed that the churches at Thyatira and Sardis are two phases of Catholic Domination that span several centuries until Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation of the 1500’s. 


Protestantism was the Lord’s favored church, from 1500 to 1900 when it too became as corrupted as the Catholic Church.


The age of Laodicea is the LAST church age, and we are living in it. It consists of an idolatrous, charismatic witchcraft Catholic AND Protestant church. While the Catholics have perverted the gospel of Jesus Christ with the deification of Mary and the worship of various saints, Protestantism is equally perverse. By studying church history, it became clear to me that the 7th and last age of Laodicea is a fulfillment of the Apostles Paul’s predictions that in the last days, there would be a great “falling away.””


Each church age specifically had a "collective issue" that was grieving the Holy Spirit. In the first age, they "lost their first love", the second age was told "do not fear", the third age "participated in sexual and idolatrous sin", the fourth age "worshiped Mother Mary, aka. Jezebel woman", the fifth age "was great in conquest and spread of Christianity, but considered dead"


While, at the same time, when a collective group of God's people are in harmony and flow of the Holy Spirit they are all rewarded, as we see the sixth generation was blessed by missing the "great tribulation."



I was reading some interesting thoughts on the concept of grieving the Holy Spirit and its impact on individuals and collective believers. It's fascinating how the Holy Spirit works both on an individual level and with the collective body of believers. There seems to be a connection between our individual actions and the impact they have on the larger community.


The discussion led me to the Book of Hebrews, particularly chapter 3, where it talks about the Israelites collectively grieving the Holy Spirit through their rebellion and unbelief. This idea of collective grieving is seen throughout history, from the Israelites' rejection of Jesus to more recent church history.


The book "Church of the End-time Zombies" by Pastor Pam delves into this concept by discussing the different church ages as described in the book of Revelation. Each church age had a specific collective issue that grieved the Holy Spirit, from losing their first love to engaging in idolatrous practices.


It's intriguing to see how the concept of grieving the Holy Spirit extends beyond individual actions to encompass the collective body of believers throughout history. This perspective really brings to light the importance of our actions and beliefs not just for ourselves, but for the entire community of believers.

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